Definitely, Leolaia this is great info...
Thanks so much!!
i have been researching a little on this topic and wanted to share some information i found.
its interestingly noted in the info below that israel it seems believed in several gods and not just one.. "the distribution of the god el therefore extends from 3rd century akkadian culture eastward through aram and phoenicia and downward through northern palestine to jerusalem.
yahweh, with his home in the deserts of southern levant, traveled north with the migration of the hebrews to come into competition with or displaced baal as el's traditional vizier, illustrated most clearly by psalm .
Definitely, Leolaia this is great info...
Thanks so much!!
i have been researching a little on this topic and wanted to share some information i found.
its interestingly noted in the info below that israel it seems believed in several gods and not just one.. "the distribution of the god el therefore extends from 3rd century akkadian culture eastward through aram and phoenicia and downward through northern palestine to jerusalem.
yahweh, with his home in the deserts of southern levant, traveled north with the migration of the hebrews to come into competition with or displaced baal as el's traditional vizier, illustrated most clearly by psalm .
Awesome, thanks so much! Great info....
i have been researching a little on this topic and wanted to share some information i found.
its interestingly noted in the info below that israel it seems believed in several gods and not just one.. "the distribution of the god el therefore extends from 3rd century akkadian culture eastward through aram and phoenicia and downward through northern palestine to jerusalem.
yahweh, with his home in the deserts of southern levant, traveled north with the migration of the hebrews to come into competition with or displaced baal as el's traditional vizier, illustrated most clearly by psalm .
I have been researching a little on this topic and wanted to share some information I found. Its interestingly noted in the info below that Israel it seems believed in several gods and not just one.
"The distribution of the god El therefore extends from 3rd century Akkadian culture eastward through Aram and Phoenicia and downward through northern Palestine to Jerusalem. Yahweh, with his home in the deserts of southern Levant, traveled north with the migration of the Hebrews to come into competition with or displaced Baal as El's traditional vizier, illustrated most clearly by Psalm
29 where Yahweh, originally a bedouin war god of the desert is here portrayed as a storm
god and the functional equivalent of Enlil=Hadad=Baal. The most probable time for the
incorporation of Yahweh into El's pantheon is with the emergence of Israel in the 13th
century when the peoples of northern and southern Palestine formed a political alliance and
forged a new collective identity that finally failed with Jeroboam's session. At this time El and
Yahweh became alienated (Ps 82) and returned to their own people reassuming their original
autonomy. While popular Yahwism continued in the North, the official religion was the
traditional worship of El and Baal until the destruction of the nation in 722 BCE at which
time Elohistic traditions, particularly the Elohistic Psalter, was redacted and the divine names
El and Yahweh were made synonymous."
I was also reading that Israel while in captivity in Egypt worshipped El or Elohim (plural). Moses was introduced to the worship of one god by his adoptive Egyptian family and during his time in the desert became a worshipper of Yahweh (suppousedly the God of the desert at that time) Moses returned and convinced the israelites that Yahweh and El were one and the same, therefore fusing both deities into Yahweh-El, Israels one God after that. Anyone else read about this?? Any thoughts, comments??
i came across some interesting information in a book i have just finished ("advanced wiccan spirituality" by kevin saunders).
quote:the original hebrews also saw the points of the pentagram as representing four elements of god (two masculine elements and two feminine elements) with the uppermost point representing spirit.. the four hebrew letters around the lower points of the pentagram (figure 7) are yod, he, vau, he.
these are the four letters (equating to sounds and vibrations) that spell out what is known as the true name of god in hebrew - yhvh - pronounced yah we yah veh, or more commonly, jehovah.
I read something about this in the Davinci Code and have been interested in this topic ever since....
Thanks for sharing this info
i have been warned that the elders of my cong.
are looking to meet with me formally.
i guess they have heard of my doubts and questions i have posed to family members.
Thanks all for your words of encouragement and ideas....I appreciate everything!!!!
i have been warned that the elders of my cong.
are looking to meet with me formally.
i guess they have heard of my doubts and questions i have posed to family members.
I have been warned that the elders of my cong. are looking to meet with me formally. I guess they have heard of my doubts and questions I have posed to family members. I have written a letter of disassociation in case they do want to meet with me judicially. I have decided that I want to leave on my terms, either I fade or I disassociate myself. Anywayz, I included my letter and would appreciate any feedback on it. I took out some personal information in the letter to make as generic as possible. Its short, but I think its makes my point Thanks!
To the Body of Elders at XXXX and the Governing Body of Jehovah?s Witnesses.
The following letter is to inform you of a personal decision that I feel obligated at this moment to express. I have been part of the Jehovah?s Witnesses all of my life, but been a baptized publisher for over sixteen years. During these sixteen years I have served as a pioneer and a ministerial servant and also in many other capacities in the congregation. I fulfilled all requirements asked of me, for I was assured this would bring me closer with God. As my responsibilities grew, what I began to see, what I couldn?t believe, was a whole political side to the congregation structure. Elders held their position proudly, Circuit Overseers visited arrogantly, and servants brown-nosed anyone with privilege. I began to question the spiritual direction of the congregation. This line of thinking though was incorrect, and those questions and doubts should not be dwelled on. I lost faith in the direction of the congregation. I moved thinking well this is one cong. And as my mother always said, ?We?re here to serve Jehovah, not men?
In XXXXX I was well received and when I wasn?t seen at the meetings, I received a call. I felt good, I saw the genuine concern. I expressed to these new elders some doubts I was having and how they were causing me to stumble. I received a concerned ear, and assurances that doubts affect everyone. The problem was I never really received an answer or a straight explanation to my questions. I was told to forget it, to remember where the truth was. I tried again at the behest of my wife, but again found no explanation to my questions. It convinced me that what these men do cannot be inspired or influenced by God in any way.
As I investigated and read more about the Watchtower Society, the more convinced I became that this is not God?s channel here on earth. Their false predictions of the end in the past, their distorted and confusing blood policy, the wrong use of the 607 date as Jerusalem?s fall, and the misrepresentation of the organizations past are only a few examples go to show that this cannot be an organization led by God. The Society claims they are not infallible and can make mistakes but adherence and obedience to their policies have to be absolute. My mother asked, ?XXX, if not here, where do we go?? I find that question interesting since Peter asked that same question to Jesus. How would Christ feel to know we are asking it too, but not of him, of a human organization? For this reason I wish to sever all ties with the Jehovah?s Witness organization and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. I understand an announcement has to be made to the congregation but any attempts made to discredit or distort my reputation, as well as any attempts made to stop others, including family members, from associating with me on a social setting will be considered inappropriate and hostile towards my person and will be dealt with legally. I request no contact be made to attempt to help me with this matter. Thank you for you attention.
Most Sincerely
XXXXXX
Cc: Governing Body, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
i used to post here 3 years ago but then all of a sudden i could not get logged on.
i tried e-mailing about the problem but got no answer.
so i have been lurking for the last couple of years and have tried from time to time to log on with no luck.
Welcome back, Target!
Im fairly new here, been reading and posting since around Feb. of this year....this is a great place, isnt it?
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http://www.ryanavery.com/musher.htm.
devon
ROFLMAO!!!!! HAHAHAHA
so, what's everybody reading these days?.
i used to read so passionately, but i've lost the hobby due to everyday life stress and distractions.
i want to get back into reading again.
Recently I read "The Davinci Code" I enjoyed very much
has anyone heard of richard wheelock?
if so, where can i get some press info in regards to his suicide.
for those who dont know, apparently this was a prominent member of the bethel family, that commited suicide by jumping from the 4th floor bethel infirmary window....
Thanks Blondie for the links
Danny, I totally agree..